Whats up guys and gals. Just curious what the folks that do their own SEO's are using for content editors? Or are you not using one? Personally, I like SurferSEO but I feel it is a little bit keyword stuffy.
Whats up guys and gals. Just curious what the folks that do their own SEO's are using for content editors? Or are you not using one? Personally, I like SurferSEO but I feel it is a little bit keyword stuffy.
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daddygambler (9 March 2023), mediamanoz (22 February 2023)
Answer's a bit obvious but - ChatGPT does it all for me. If I don't like the amount of keywords - I just tell it to "tone down keyword stuffing of specific word" and it's done.
edgarf76 (7 March 2023)
In terms of optimizing content I agreed surferSEO is a powerful tool. PageOptimizer Pro is also a great tool but, it calculates things very differently (but, its cheaper).
edgarf76 (7 March 2023)
surferseo is one I'm using
edgarf76 (7 March 2023)
Personally I think they are all wrong and outdated nothing has really changed from 7-8 years ago Google is prtetty good picking up things with less signals, most of trhese editors still reccomend keyword spamming
DanHorvat (9 March 2023), mediamanoz (22 November 2023)
I think that partly underestimates their value (or the value of some of them). Although the sentiment behind the statement is understandable and, from some aspects/perspectives, appropriate.
At the end of the day, it's the writer's/editor's skill that counts (and/or, to be precise, that writer's/editor's interpretation of what the tool in question is telling them, in combination with their own understanding/knowledge of the subject and ability to put that into words).
I'd say that if you swap the word 'recommend' for 'guide' or 'guideline'...and the user has sufficient skill to understand the difference and apply it sensibly/skilfully...then the end result can be valuable content that doesn't look spammy and offers value and interest to readers.
Whether that end result ranks or not will often be subject to all the other factors that might affect it. Fairly regularly, that ranking capability (or at least the ranking position) can be irrelevant of how good it is.
Last edited by chaumi; 8 March 2023 at 10:05 am. Reason: addition
ChatGPT is a great tool, but it can duplicate texts, which I have noticed many times. With a large number of people who use it, it may be ineffective in the future and Google will position better content written by people.
I agree with what you're saying, but feels like the recent google updates just focus on authority rather than content quality. I'm not saying don't focus on content quality, cause you have to. I'm just saying most serps are run over by parasite seo sites at the moment with crap content, and if you use surferseo or pageoptimizerpro you need to make sure to filter those pages out since they are not ranking due to their superior content, just the authority and that google (at this time) favors them.
chaumi (9 March 2023)
SurferSEO is nice, however a unique free tool called Common Sense needs to be used together with it, otherwise the text will be too stuffy. Its never a good idea to add keywords just for keywords' sake
Notepad or sometimes notepadd ++, or possibly just writing directly in a wordpress page.
Seems like the distinction is the editor as opposed to an seo content checker. Having a plugin such as yoast or rankmath should give you an indication on the writing. As others have mentioned far too often many seo checkers tend to keyword stuff too much in my opinion, as well as make it seem like the page was not written for visitors.
I do sometimes use a passive voice checker of content chunks when I get high warnings, but at that point editing is still done directly in the page manually in text/code view.
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0spiel (9 April 2023)
There are tons of discussion around the pros and cons of using ChatGPT for content. For me, the answer is straight and simple: In regard to valuable content, AI will never replace the human writing. Just because it deals with words and syntax and not with concepts and intentions. AI does not and will never have conceptual thinking. Content of gambling/casino websites already came to be very similar (this is why it's so difficult for them to advance in ranking, despite the link-building struggle); with the use of the robot it will become more and more uniform and similar across the sites and thus it would make no difference in SEO gain. As simple as that.
It's true. And I think google robots maybe recognize one day (or they do already) that the content is written by AI. Or let's say if the text they find is very similar to the text on another website they give you a lower ranking in google. Ok you could use AI to generate some basic text if you start a new website but I think it will pay off if you write more human text later and care about high quality of the text. Because that's what search engines are looking for.
Oh yes, I've been hearing a lot of noise about ChatGPT lately, but the question is whether it can truly replace human writers. In my opinion, there's no substitute for human expertise. AI may provide lots of repetitive content and incorrect facts, which can be problematic for clients who are looking for quality content. ChatGPT is good for creating a structure and making a draft, but if you plan to use it directly on your website, you should reword and fact-check before publishing.
Some of my clients are requesting the use of Surfer SEO and are willing to pay extra for it, but I believe it tends to stuff keywords and sometimes doesn't make sense just for the sake of scoring well, even though I have to do it at their request. Personally, I prefer using Rank Math, which is able to check for AI-generated content and has been doing a great job so far!
I believe that it's always better to rely on human writers for content that truly connects with readers, is well-researched, and can help improve SEO.
Well, most of human writers are or will be using chat GPT and you won’t be able to tell. Even the detection tools cannot tell if you polish it well. So Chat GPT is here to stay. And to be honest its more about the quality of the written text than who wrote it. Reader does not care if someone wrote the slot review in Arkanzas or Zimbabwe. I think quality its what matters.
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I am using KeywordSpy. Its a new tool which I found fantastic.
Its content editor help you to write the most topical articles, it has really great competitors analysis tool and build-in AI content detector that allows you to edit text and lower its predictability
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