These guys suck

**Puma** · 29 August 2009, 10:24 pm

Well its official. Affiliates United sucks.

Tracking is bad, service is bad, the affiliate marketing section as nice as it is sucks too. I would not recommend this program to anybody ever. If it looks like a duck and smells like a duck and it sucks its Cpays with a new name. Try to get a flash game on your website and when you try to get help see how long it takes them. I hope they go broke and be gone for good. Its harsh but let face it, they have been a dirty mole for along time. Cheaters and crappy programs should not be around this long.

What a joke.

**Puma** · 30 August 2009, 10:37 am

Another example:

I emailed asking for help adding the flash games. This was their response.

Hi Chris,

Can you please send me some details so I can help you?

-What games are you referring to?
-What site did your want to add them to?
-Give some information on your site/s, like taffic stats, countries you get traffic from and number of players you can send per month

1.Well what games do you think? The ones your program offers
2.Who cares what site, they are html codes for any website.
3.Why would you need info on my site in order to add games?

**sparky1** · 30 August 2009, 12:44 pm

No shocker there Chris! Anything even remotly related to C-Pays is garbage and not worth the effort unless of course you enjoy being screwed over.

I am at a loss that any affiliates even work with these guys after all the negative publicity that has been posted online about them.

**Chips** · 30 August 2009, 1:42 pm

Originally Posted by pumacat

Another example:

I emailed asking for help adding the flash games. This was their response.

1.Well what games do you think? The ones your program offers
2.Who cares what site, they are html codes for any website.
3.Why would you need info on my site in order to add games?

I guess if you don't have "the right" traffic, they can't get the thing to work. What fools.

I was owed cash by c-[dont]pays so I placed a banner till I got paid. Funny thing is, other than having to mail 2-3x a week, I was unable to get a single signup with a $30 ND bonus. Seems odd that I can't even get a click, but the stats all show a big 0.

Guess who is coming off my site? yep

**buyonaut** · 5 September 2009, 5:06 am

Gone from my sites too after too many zeros showing all the time...

**ripoffunited** · 6 September 2009, 11:36 am

I will warn you all, I noticed affiliates united remove players that deposit more then average,(on all their brands), from your account. (100% sure) So if you want to work with them you know what to do if you don't like to waste time and money, and if you work with them remove their banners as soon as possible. We have to work together to take this program down forever.

PLEASE TAKE THIS SERIOUS I DID AN INVESTIGATION, IT WAS BETTER I NEVER DID BECAUSE I CAN'T DO NOTHING AGAINST IT ALSO CAN"T GIVE THE DETAILS OF MY INVESTIGATION, I AM FURIOUS HERE.........

**universal4** · 6 September 2009, 12:50 pm

This is wrong to create a new account, just to post against a program. (no matter what program it is)

Rick
Universal4

**GFPC** · 7 September 2009, 8:17 am

Well i can feel all your pain. Although i really liked my affiliate manager i feel i must also remove them for good now.

I had them on my site for 2 years about. Trusted them.. and then i got slapped in the face and asked to stop promoting PRS.

I did that and now make absolutely zero. Yet they still want me to promote them.. Why? Is that not a waste?

Makes me wonder if all my Zeros are really zeros.. all my other programs have at least some sign ups.

Not Them.

I dont know.

Steve

**systemlays** · 23 September 2009, 7:27 pm

This is not good press!

I have all of your problems and more (the more being unpaid £££s) - and am seeking a remedy tomorrow. Whether or not this works remains to be seen, but I have grave doubts about this whole setup - I was told by the original affiliate manager that this Affiliate United was set up as a result of "hundreds of millions of £s deal" - I could have built a more robust platform for a grand.

It doesn't track, doesn't show stats, and we're not getting paid this month. The timeframe for fixing all of this "can't give you one (sic)" was the response. So it could be a month, a year, or never. Great work - so we keep sending referrals, right? Wrong.

I honestly wonder if they have any affiliates left.

**GFPC** · 30 September 2009, 7:32 am

Yeah i have been trying to promote them for 2 years.. With PRS and all other casinos.... and its also funny... i get no clicks...

While all other brands are doing fine... or at least several hundred clicks...

With C- Dont - Pays now Affilaite United i cant get not even a click. Yet i have tested this... I have had players do the no deposit bonus... and sign ups... yet when i look at states no where to be found..

SO sick.. and i have them on 6 sites.. LOL with 3 diff accounts...

NOne show any traffic..

When i was promoting their PRS i had 10 -20 sign ups.. and made something..

Then they turned around and revolked it.

And you know what else.. they don care one bit... They will send their havies after you.. and say all the right words.. let me call you... all the BS..

Then change your AM when your unhappy and a new guy will lsay all the same stuff all over..

They dont care.. just look here they are here reading these posts and dont even have the sense to reply.

They do not care...

**toydog** · 30 September 2009, 8:57 am

In August 2009, AffUtd shaved our commission: (Note: Red figure is the original number)

Refer to the archive Terms:
https://archive.affiliateguarddog.com/~webarch/site/archive/20090824093904/https://www.affutd.com/en/terms

<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><th align="left">Accumulated Number of New Players Across All Products Per Calendar Month</th> <th align="left">Percentage of Net Gaming Revenue</th> </tr> <tr> <td>0</td> <td>12,5%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1 – 6</td> <td>25%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>7 – 20</td> <td>30%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>21 – 50 100</td> <td>35%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>51 101 – 199 300</td> <td>40%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>200 300 and up</td> <td>45%</td></tr></tbody></table>

In less than a month, September 2009, AffUtd shaved our commission further by separating Sport and "Casino,Poker,Bingo" Rev-share plan. It's harder to achieve the number of depositing player for higher percentage.

Refer to current Termshttps://www.affutd.com/en/terms
THIS VERSION DATED AND EFFECTIVE FROM: 9<sup>th</sup> September 2009

New Sports Rev-share plan:

<table class="MsoNormalTable" style="border: medium none ; border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding: 0in; background: rgb(204, 204, 204) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; width: 245.95pt;" width="328">Accumulated number of new unique depositing Players to the Sportsbook per calendar month
</td> <td style="padding: 0in; background: rgb(204, 204, 204) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; width: 150.85pt;" width="201"> Revenue Share payable as percentage of Net Revenue
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border: 1.5pt solid black; padding: 0in; width: 245.95pt;" width="328">

0

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 150.85pt;" width="201">

12.5%*

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 245.95pt;" width="328">

1-50

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 150.85pt;" width="201">

20%

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 245.95pt;" width="328">

51-100

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 150.85pt;" width="201">

25%

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 245.95pt;" width="328">

100-200

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 150.85pt;" width="201">

30%

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 245.95pt;" width="328">

201 +

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 150.85pt;" width="201">

35%

</td></tr></tbody></table>
New online Game (Casino, Poker, Bingo) Rev-share plan:

<table class="MsoNormalTable" style="border: medium none ; border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding: 0in; background: rgb(204, 204, 204) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; width: 282pt;" width="376">Accumulated Number of new unique depositing Players across All Online Gaming Products per calendar month
</td> <td style="padding: 0in; background: rgb(204, 204, 204) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; width: 129.2pt;" width="172"> Revenue Share payable as percentage of Net Gaming Revenue
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border: 1.5pt solid black; padding: 0in; width: 282pt;" width="376">

0

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 129.2pt;" width="172">

12.5%*

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 282pt;" width="376">

1-6

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 129.2pt;" width="172">

25%

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 282pt;" width="376">

7-20

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 129.2pt;" width="172">

30%

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 282pt;" width="376">

21-100

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 129.2pt;" width="172">

35%

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 282pt;" width="376">

101-300

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 129.2pt;" width="172">

40%

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 282pt;" width="376">

301 +

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 129.2pt;" width="172">

45%

</td></tr></tbody></table>

**GFPC** · 30 September 2009, 7:24 pm

As an expression i used to say " The night is not over until the shaving kit is empty" - and you know what? They will come and read this and leave without posting a single word.

i watch them go and go without even giving any comments to anyone here.

As I said before "They do Not care"

Try promoting them for 2 years, and have almost no clicks.

As another person stated Aff United = C - NO - Pays.

**Magenti** · 1 October 2009, 6:46 am

Originally Posted by toydog

In August 2009, AffUtd shaved our commission: (Note: Red figure is the original number)

Refer to the archive Terms:
https://archive.affiliateguarddog.com/~webarch/site/archive/20090824093904/https://www.affutd.com/en/terms

<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><th align="left">Accumulated Number of New Players Across All Products Per Calendar Month</th> <th align="left">Percentage of Net Gaming Revenue</th> </tr> <tr> <td>0</td> <td>12,5%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1 ?6</td> <td>25%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>7 ?20</td> <td>30%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>21 ?50 100</td> <td>35%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>51 101 ?199 300</td> <td>40%</td> </tr> <tr> <td>200 300 and up</td> <td>45%</td></tr></tbody></table>

In less than a month, September 2009, AffUtd shaved our commission further by separating Sport and "Casino,Poker,Bingo" Rev-share plan. It's harder to achieve the number of depositing player for higher percentage.

Refer to current Termshttps://www.affutd.com/en/terms
THIS VERSION DATED AND EFFECTIVE FROM: 9<sup>th</sup> September 2009

New Sports Rev-share plan:

<table class="MsoNormalTable" style="border: medium none ; border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding: 0in; background: rgb(204, 204, 204) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; width: 245.95pt;" width="328">Accumulated number of new unique depositing Players to the Sportsbook per calendar month
</td> <td style="padding: 0in; background: rgb(204, 204, 204) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; width: 150.85pt;" width="201"> Revenue Share payable as percentage of Net Revenue
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border: 1.5pt solid black; padding: 0in; width: 245.95pt;" width="328">

0

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 150.85pt;" width="201">

12.5%*

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 245.95pt;" width="328">

1-50

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 150.85pt;" width="201">

20%

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 245.95pt;" width="328">

51-100

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 150.85pt;" width="201">

25%

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 245.95pt;" width="328">

100-200

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 150.85pt;" width="201">

30%

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 245.95pt;" width="328">

201 +

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 150.85pt;" width="201">

35%

</td></tr></tbody></table>
New online Game (Casino, Poker, Bingo) Rev-share plan:

<table class="MsoNormalTable" style="border: medium none ; border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding: 0in; background: rgb(204, 204, 204) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; width: 282pt;" width="376">Accumulated Number of new unique depositing Players across All Online Gaming Products per calendar month
</td> <td style="padding: 0in; background: rgb(204, 204, 204) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; width: 129.2pt;" width="172"> Revenue Share payable as percentage of Net Gaming Revenue
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border: 1.5pt solid black; padding: 0in; width: 282pt;" width="376">

0

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 129.2pt;" width="172">

12.5%*

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 282pt;" width="376">

1-6

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 129.2pt;" width="172">

25%

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 282pt;" width="376">

7-20

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 129.2pt;" width="172">

30%

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 282pt;" width="376">

21-100

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 129.2pt;" width="172">

35%

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 282pt;" width="376">

101-300

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 129.2pt;" width="172">

40%

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 282pt;" width="376">

301 +

</td> <td style="padding: 0in; width: 129.2pt;" width="172">

45%

</td></tr></tbody></table>

That has got to be the worst comission plan I have ever seen. Who still promotes them under those conditions? And even if you make a deal with them for say 40% who is to say they will not drop you faster than an egg in a henhouse when you remove their brands from the sites?

Guys, if you can send 50 players a month, you would not do so for 20% comission, not when there are other better brands who are better branded for your market.

**GFPC** · 1 October 2009, 8:28 am

At least you can count on one for sure thing about Aff United...

1. They will come here for 5-10 minutes to read these posts.
2. Leave without a reply.

Nice JOB CPAYS

**Betpartners** · 1 October 2009, 7:04 pm

well i gave them a try

over 1.5 million impressions, just 975 click thrus and 0 sign ups

In the exact same spot every single banner that i have ever shown on there with the same sort of impression got a load more click thrus and a hell of a lot more sign ups.

It simply defies belief that William Hill would not get sign ups in that spot

In fact i will say it is impossible unless the tracking is faulty

Would like to see some affiliates also report on good returns, or is this all one sided

If it is then either AFF Utd respond here or action be taken by the GPWA in relation to its sponsorship etc

We are talking a platinum sponsor that from what i can see is not trusted by its affiliates for the most part.

something wrong with that

**Chips** · 1 October 2009, 7:10 pm

Well I have NEVER had a program with a $50 free chip not get a single click in 6 weeks. Not one click!!

They are no longer on my site. Not worth making money for an outfit that is shaving every stinking player that goes there. They are the most useless piles of crap I have come across and I used to promote FutureBet a few years back, at least they showed you stats and did not pay. This outfit eliminates clicks before they hit the reporting system.

I say it is long over due that they were called on the carpet. How about an anonymous audit? Y'all can see it for yourselves.

Worthless.

**GFPC** · 2 October 2009, 9:26 pm

I agree... they are shaving for sure.. Its so sick.. I have not ever seen something this bad before.. And also such non responsiveness..

when i emailed them a while back as they shifted me again to another AM for some reason i spoke about my un happiness and i feel they are not reporting true numbers... HE IGNORES ME NOW

They are watch these threads.. and they are ignoring us....

Does any affiliates wanna do this private audit together??

I will be willing to do the test... Can use your links, or mine...

I mean i have them on 5 6 sites for casino and poker and i think sports book and have 3 accounts...

Every account is ZERO ZERO ZERO even the free chips!!!!

Something must be done...

Since they are unresponsive and will not reply here...

I respectfully formally ask GPWA to have a complete investigation and forfeiture of their sponsorship status.

The fact they will not answer our posts, or do anything to answer us shows immediately they do not deserve sponsorship status....

In the meantime if anyone wants to run an audit on them in all their platforms we can work on it with various links and test everyone.

Steve

**Betpartners** · 3 October 2009, 2:01 am

Originally Posted by GFPC

I respectfully formally ask GPWA to have a complete investigation and forfeiture of their sponsorship status.

I second that request

**pgaming** · 3 October 2009, 8:03 am

Is it not about time this program gets the boot? They have been ripping us off for years. Plus they put a huge stain on the GPWA.

greek39

**GamTrak** · 3 October 2009, 10:18 am

Originally Posted by greek39

Is it not about time this program gets the boot? They have been ripping us off for years. Plus they put a huge stain on the GPWA.

greek39

Hey Peter, do you know which if any of their brands are rogued at Casinomeister or ADG? I have not checked recently, but those sites and other factors seem to the be key to get action on a rogue operator.

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