Social Bookmarking for Rank Boost

**GaryTheScubaGuy** · 5 May 2009, 12:36 am

I've used social bookmarking in my arsenal of link acquisition for years with success.

My advice was to knock out a 'supplemental' or 'indented' secondary listing that your competition has when they search for your keyword - especially if you are in the top 20. One extra position equates into sometimes double the traffic. In the top 10 in this (poker) market one position could mean tens of thousands.

Over time I have gotten more flack from people that never believed it could work - over and over and over again.

As was the case recently.

So i decided when I saw the criticism, I was going to go out and immediately start yet another test to prove how strong a technique it was, but I never expected this...

I performed this search "poker" in the default Google (no regional or language filters) and since I am still in Amsterdam it searched from my Netherlands based IP at my hotel. Here are the results;

Notice PokerListings.nl's position - #9, and notice the two listings above it; nl.pokernews.com - with 2 listings. Notice what the URL and search term is.

I ran this at 10 AM GMT on the 4th, just after being doubted yet again

And this morning at 6AM, less than 24 hrs, here are the results;

Not only has the indentation been removed, earning one better position for the target site, but the rank was improved placing them ABOVE them as well.

I'd like to think that I don't need to prove myself each time I get questioned, but I guess we need to question the claims made by many SEO's since so many of them are another author's repurposed statements.

I test everything because you never know what your getting - especially from the likes of Google.

If anyone else gives this a go please publish your results. We don't need to see screenshots and URL's, although you could use a random one like I did.

One more thing...the last time I ran this strategy the ranking increase on Google lasted around 30 days and Yahoo and MSN lasted 45 days.

Give it a go!! (but definitely DO NOT abuse this. The SBM sites will ban you and it may run a red flag at Google if abused)

GaryTheScubaGuy

**masontech** · 5 May 2009, 1:41 am

Thanks Gary, interesting stuff.

How do you find OnlyWire? I used to use v1.0 and stopped when they started charging for it in v2.0.

Interested in hearing your thoughts on the tool.

**GaryTheScubaGuy** · 5 May 2009, 2:46 am

I've used it for a couple years so I may have been grandfathered, but I also saw where they had an ad supported vesion (I think), so look bit closer.

You can do it manually as well without onlywire

**raphnix** · 5 May 2009, 4:50 am

YEah. Social bookmarking nowadays is far more effective than directory listing. But I have to warn you Gary that sometimes, too much social bookmarking can actually make your keywords target fluctuate in rankings.

Try to observe it everyday and you'll see what I mean.

**casinojack** · 5 May 2009, 10:56 am

Gary,

Great thread, i also am a huge fan of this, and love onlywire

yes if you have the ad version is FREE !! But the cost per year is minimal. I have about 30% of my blog posts get submitted to prevent spam, and have 5 separate onlywire accounts. Is good to launch and if you keep it up is great!

**GaryTheScubaGuy** · 5 May 2009, 5:33 pm

Originally Posted by raphnix

I have to warn you Gary that sometimes, too much social bookmarking can actually make your keywords target fluctuate in rankings.

Yep - you are correct. That's why I said,"Give it a go!! (but definitely DO NOT abuse this. The SBM sites will ban you and it may run a red flag at Google if abused)"

Its very sensitive.

Thanks for the FB!!

Gary

**range** · 6 May 2009, 10:07 am

OK, so I'm, guessing OnlyWire is an alternative to using Roboform (as in previous 12 tips)?

Really need to start giving SBM a go.

**GaryTheScubaGuy** · 6 May 2009, 10:22 am

Hi range,

Yes you are correct. Those were from my 2007 tips. Either way works but onlywire is a bit easier.

**Gamblogger** · 7 May 2009, 12:29 pm

So, I'm thinking there is a very fine line between effective social bookmarking and getting permanently banned for abuse. I'd like to do more social bookmarking but doing it manually is so time consuming I don't do much of it. I thought using an automated tool like this would be great but I'm concerned about the risk. I've also found that it's not as automated as I hoped -- Digg still has to be completed manually, for instance.

From what I heard about what was discussed in Amsterdam last week, if you bookmark too many pages on the same site, from the same IP address, and from the same SBM accounts you soon get in trouble. Question is, how much is too much? And if too much is not much, then how advantageous is a tool like OnlyWire? Is putting an OnlyWire button at the end of every article going to tempt fate?!

**casinojack** · 7 May 2009, 2:03 pm

I think is about being constant. i have blogs that to this day add 20ish posts a day, and 30 - 40% get bookmarked...but always same number week in week out....no issues

**Chips** · 7 May 2009, 2:55 pm

Originally Posted by lyceum

Question is, how much is too much? And if too much is not much, then how advantageous is a tool like OnlyWire? Is putting an OnlyWire button at the end of every article going to tempt fate?!

I have been using onlywire for a week or so, I do not go nuts with it, but when I blog I use it, or a special post I want to get more attention too. I also use it if I find a cool non gambling article. So far so good, I have been manually doing this for a year now, but only wire just a week, it saves about an hour of work per post/blog/article.

Some SBM sites are stricter than others, i.e. technorati will freeze you from time to time, same for stumble.

Moderation I reckon is the key.

**GaryTheScubaGuy** · 7 May 2009, 3:15 pm

Hi Guys,

I did this same post over on Casinomeisters blog and have been fighting flack from Lots0 - a seasoned SEO like me, and also in the gaming industry.

At the end of the day this tactic is best plagiarised by using a mix of Onlywire, and TOR/Vidalia that masks proxies by looking for open IP's internationally. This way they cannot trace your IP. It took me 2 years to finally develop a method and a habit to make this process less painful, but it still sucks....but it still works.

ps. Digg is automated through Onlywire - there is an added step as there is with a few of the numerous SBM sites on Onlywire. But in 8 steps I submit to 30+ sites - and all in 10 minutes.

pps. Putting a button on each page isn't the tactic, its using the automated submission to boost a specific page and keyword. Use it for a boost or to gain a position by using it to target a non-competitor to knock an 'indented' listing that your competitor has. The fact that in this test it also earned a position above the target was a plus.

**range** · 20 May 2009, 6:15 am

Just to be clear, what is the big danger here - getting your SBM accounts closed because of submitting one domain (your own), or getting your site blacklisted by Google for too many SBM links?

Thanks

**lots0** · 20 May 2009, 11:42 am

How many is too many? Ya just never flippin know...

Till it's too late and the domain is hit with a penalty.

Not to mention that google can and will "turn the knob" (adjust the factors) on a regular basis, so the number of links that worked last month may very well not work this month or next month and may even get you penalized.

To be sure, this social bookmarking will work for a short term boost, but the risk factors far out weigh the benefits, at least in my opinion.

If all you want to do is put up 'throw away domains' with a month or two 'life expectancy' to pollute/spam the SERP for a short time. Using this social bookmarking would be the way to go.

If however, you are trying to build a long term business and build a Brand... I would advise the average (and even the above average

) webmaster to avoid using this 'social bookmarking' like you would avoid someone with the Swine Flu.

**universal4** · 20 May 2009, 2:25 pm

Anything you use that you need to mask (or hide) your ip either through a proxy or other means is a cheat and NOT white hat in my book.

Rick
Universal4

**casinojack** · 20 May 2009, 2:51 pm

Interesting Rick.

I see your point, though I disagree...

Would nice a nice thread just to see how to define the difference between black and white hat.

I hear things like this all the time:

Adding blog comments is bad, but building "mini=nets" is ok
Crating many sites to support you main one is ok, but "refferer SPAM" is bad
Paying for links is ok, but dont let Google find out
Hosting all your sites at same place is bad, so I use many hosts so I have different Ips, and that is ok

These are some statements I have heard, and I think at days end if you don't steal content, sabotage others, Hijack brands....I guess I never though of ti that much until recently.

**universal4** · 20 May 2009, 5:04 pm

Well....look at it like this....

Should all affiliates suddenly stop caring about how ethical the casinos they promote are? Or do you agree that ethics is a good thing?

Rick
Universal4

**pgaming** · 20 May 2009, 10:36 pm

Would nice a nice thread just to see how to define the difference between black and white hat.

A very brief summary,

Whitehat creates something useful and grows over time. Blackhat steals something useful a dies overtime only to start the process over again.

JMO

greek39

**universal4** · 20 May 2009, 11:29 pm

Thats actually a simple and profound statement Peter....well said.

Rick
Universal4

**raphnix** · 21 May 2009, 2:43 am

Also, Whitehat don't cheat his way to be recognized by SE and gain immediate traffic. All we need is time and let our site's reputation gain naturally through small efforts of promoting our site honestly.

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