New German Online Gambling Regulations Imminent

**AVC-Invest** · 28 June 2021, 7:48 am

This doesn't really affect me, but as i'm sure your aware, from the 1st of July Germany will ban all Revenue Share deals for affiliates and impose a €1,000 euros deposit limit across all sites per month for German Online Gamblers.

To me this seems like a nanny state, and they certainly shouldn't be interfering with how affiliates get paid commissions....
what next, limits on spending on Crypto & Investments?

Interested to know everyone's thoughts on this and if it will impact you.

**Andyku** · 28 June 2021, 9:24 am

Hi,

In the company I work for, we have a German sports betting affiliate site. We've already asked by some of the operators to remove them as they stop working in this market. Big names like Betsson. Wonder if more operators will join this trend.

**Jambo** · 28 June 2021, 11:38 am

Unfortunately, the German politicians who created this new law are not the smartest people on this planet and have absolutely no clue about anything.

The only thing they can do with it is to drive the players even further into the black market.

In Germany you can lose € 50,000 in the casino, nobody asks about it. Around the corner at the kiosk you can play the lottery for € 10,000, nobody cares and I could list many more examples. But online some idiot politicians get the idea that it can only be € 1,000 per month.

And nobody understands what the bullshit is about with the Revshare Deals.

And that's not all, there is always a new additional tax of 5,3%. Especially for Online Poker a disaster. If a player sit down with 100€ at a table, the poker needs to pay immediately 5,3% Tax. That's crazy and the reason why many poker sites already left the German market and some others increased the rake/fees to cover this stupid tax somehow.

Very sad and it will destroy the German market

**newcustomeroffer** · 28 June 2021, 12:32 pm

Originally Posted by Jambo

And that's not all, there is always a new additional tax of 5,3%. Especially for Online Poker a disaster. If a player sit down with 100€ at a table, the poker needs to pay immediately 5,3% Tax. That's crazy and the reason why many poker sites already left the German market and some others increased the rake/fees to cover this stupid tax somehow.

Was reading about the 5.3% tax earlier from a slots perspective, esentially if I'm understanding it right, every spin is taxed 5.3% so surely that will lead to a lower payout percentage and the player simply gets punished as the casino will pass on most if not all of the cost. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's how it read to me.

**Sherlock** · 28 June 2021, 1:01 pm

The nanny state is inevitable part of cycle of developed society. There are too many people, they can not live freely as before. Society puts way over 50% of sources into direct or indirect inclusion. We are trying to save everybody from themselves. People are stripped of responsibility and therefore of freedoms too.

We did not reach the inflection point yet I think and definitely not the bottom. Everything needs to be so much overregulated, that the societies will destroy themselves.

So in short the paradox of dark age is: that the more stupid things happen, the better it is, because the closer is the reversal.

Indeed it impacts me a lot, I lose the past RS and future income, but that is irrelevant. In few years we all will lose everything during economic collapse and wars. Now I drink some rare oolong tea and eat a cake, so all is good.

**Jambo** · 28 June 2021, 1:15 pm

Originally Posted by newcustomeroffer

Was reading about the 5.3% tax earlier from a slots perspective, esentially if I'm understanding it right, every spin is taxed 5.3% so surely that will lead to a lower payout percentage and the player simply gets punished as the casino will pass on most if not all of the cost. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's how it read to me.

Exactly so it is!

**baldidiot** · 28 June 2021, 1:22 pm

Originally Posted by newcustomeroffer

Was reading about the 5.3% tax earlier from a slots perspective, esentially if I'm understanding it right, every spin is taxed 5.3% so surely that will lead to a lower payout percentage and the player simply gets punished as the casino will pass on most if not all of the cost. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's how it read to me.

Is this tax on turnover? That's ridiculous if so.

**baldidiot** · 28 June 2021, 1:23 pm

Originally Posted by Sherlock

In few years we all will lose everything during economic collapse and wars.

Now there's a positive thought for a Monday morning!

**newcustomeroffer** · 29 June 2021, 7:45 am

Originally Posted by baldidiot

Is this tax on turnover? That's ridiculous if so.

Yeah, that's how it reads to me - here's the article I was reading on it.

**AVC-Invest** · 29 June 2021, 7:54 am

Originally Posted by newcustomeroffer

Yeah, that's how it reads to me - here's the article I was reading on it.

This is truly abhorrent, taking 5.3% off every slot spin or poker game! Also, I forgot to mention that online slots are limited to €1 euro per spin....

**Pokerface** · 29 June 2021, 12:20 pm

With all the regulatory changes in all the markets it is difficult to stay on top of everything and keep the sites updated. Did not realize the loss of rev share ... that really sucks.

**vanwill** · 30 June 2021, 4:04 am

This is a huge hit. Lots of affiliates will lose millions. It seems more countries will follow. But do they think about the industry that could bring them a lot of money if they regulate that correctly? It seems not.

**MichaelSchumann** · 11 July 2021, 1:44 pm

The new gabling treaty, also known as GlüNeuRStV 2021 has already launched on 1st of July. Yes 1000 Euro cross domain limit is big rad flag but what nobody is talking about is turnover tax for online slots and online poker. Thing is German government is asking 5.3% that is a game changer. Thing is that is extremely high tax so just to give you idea is that playing slots in Germany would become up to 10% less profitable then in other countries. Era is changing interesting to watch what will happen.

**Brand_24** · 12 July 2021, 5:55 am

What do you think is the main reason they ban all Revenue Share deals for affiliates?

**MichaelSchumann** · 13 July 2021, 1:45 am

Good Question.
Thing is it is not permitted by new law (State Treaty on Gaming 2021 — GlüStV 2021).
You can check 6.5 point in the regulation.
here is the link to read it in English:
https://nolimit-casinos-de.medium.co...1-848818478fd3

**Brand_24** · 13 July 2021, 3:09 am

Originally Posted by MichaelSchumann

Good Question.
Thing is it is not permitted by new law (State Treaty on Gaming 2021 — GlüStV 2021).
You can check 6.5 point in the regulation.
here is the link to read it in English:
https://nolimit-casinos-de.medium.co...1-848818478fd3

Yeah I know that politics is the reason. But I wonder what politics wants to achieve with this law?

**wonderpunter** · 13 July 2021, 3:21 am

Germans wont change their habits they will just change where they play prohabition rarely works and just forces it underground

**MichaelSchumann** · 13 July 2021, 3:21 am

What politics usually want my friend - M o n e y : ) Taxes. They gonna flush out small players off the Market leave big once. Start sucking the money as bats and once it will be not enough loosen up the relations. That's how it always was and will be : )

**Former Member 11** · 13 July 2021, 10:17 am

Funny part here is that it took them years to create this.

**Benitho** · 14 July 2021, 3:23 am

99% of all politicians are idiots, plain and simple. In Germany, that percentage might be even higher.

They see money and they want it.

Then, after a few years when the realize the mistake, they claim that nobody could have seen this coming.

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