Comeon lowered my commission from 50% to 10% without telling me

**3jokers** · 26 May 2022, 9:08 am

Has this happened to anyone else?

Comeon lowered my commission accross the board to 10%. No inforation what so ever.

I have promoted them since 2011 and this is how they treat affiliates. Be careful.

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**vifa** · 26 May 2022, 9:35 am

I'll just checked my old account from 2013. Same for me. Lowered from 50% to 10%. Thanks for the observation. I was just wondering why the commission was so low for this month.

**eenzoo** · 26 May 2022, 11:42 am

I guess you don't send fresh traffic/FTD currently?
Probably you have one or two old players in your account ... but what do you expect?
Retirement money until the players died, without any new business for 8 years?
Be happy as they pay you at least 10%

**3jokers** · 26 May 2022, 11:53 am

Originally Posted by eenzoo

I guess you don't send fresh traffic/FTD currently?
Probably you have one or two old players in your account ... but what do you expect?
Retirement money until the players died, without any new business for 8 years?
Be happy as they pay you at least 10%

Not true, 21 active players this month, a few new players this year, but they require 6 every 3 months.

**eenzoo** · 26 May 2022, 1:03 pm

So ofc its true! What are "few"? One, two?

And you have your answer. You signed the T&C and thats it.

And ofc thats happened to almost everyone. If you stop growing traffic, switching the operators. Losing ground in Google.

The industry is changing, margins getting smaller, risk is rising.

We can't expect to get paid for decades without pushing hard.

**wonderpunter** · 27 May 2022, 12:57 am

the hours of dedicating customer service to affiliates that dsont produce new can cost.. some will skype and email daily so i can understand.. in these cases you just put them to bottom of the list and focus those that get new traffic , this seems to be the norm now.. days of lifetime full comms are dwindiling

**rmeeuwsen** · 27 May 2022, 9:25 am

Originally Posted by wonderpunter

the hours of dedicating customer service to affiliates that dsont produce new can cost.. some will skype and email daily so i can understand.. in these cases you just put them to bottom of the list and focus those that get new traffic , this seems to be the norm now.. days of lifetime full comms are dwindiling

Also seems like the days of honoring commitments is also changing.

**eenzoo** · 27 May 2022, 11:35 am

I would be careful with such opinion.

Usually It goes like this, please correct me if I'm wrong ...

one build a website ... is dreaming of passive income, massive passive income. Checking around, and yeah, gambling, porn, pills, finance ... all great sources. So lets build a website and gain some traffic.

In 2011 as easy as to make a pi ss ****, promises were made (we pay you life time commi vs. I send you traffic)

During the years business becomes little harder, FTD's very rare. The expectations on both sides are same or even higher.

And what are commitments ... written AND signed contracts are the gold in every business.

Promises are worthless.

I totally understand both parties but as an affiliate you are the guy on the trigger.
YOU decide who gets the traffic. The only thing you need to do, is to move your ass and not hanging on old dreams and even older times. All gone.

**casinobonusguy** · 27 May 2022, 11:44 am

We do not work with ANY programs that have quotas for this reason and we send 1000ish FTD a month so minimums are never a issue but one day maybe we will not do as well .I just say no thanks to all of these programs to save myself future headaches.

**Cash Bonus** · 27 May 2022, 3:04 pm

I would never in a million years want to work with a program that will pull this garbage on me. This is really disgusting. You should always carefully read the terms and conditions of any program, instead of just impulsively going ahead and immediately signing up with them, as eenzoo has already mentioned to you. He's got a very good point.

**affy** · 28 May 2022, 6:08 am

Originally Posted by eenzoo

...but what do you expect?
Retirement money until the players died, without any new business for 8 years?...

I guess affiliates expect deals to be respected...

**Sherlock** · 28 May 2022, 8:54 am

Originally Posted by casinobonusguy

We do not work with ANY programs that have quotas for this reason and we send 1000ish FTD a month so minimums are never a issue but one day maybe we will not do as well .I just say no thanks to all of these programs to save myself future headaches.

We do not work with ANY programs that have quotas yet FTFY

Nobody sane would start with programs that have quotas or steal. The reality is that those programs almost always start to steal. And they start to steal exactly because you have sent them the thousands of FTDs, so the more they get traffic the more they are incentivised to steal.

There are exceptions like bet365, 22bet/playamo or SIA yet. Nobody can be sure, especially when the crooks like Entain are buying the really honest programs.

And no, even paper will not save anyones ass.

The affiliate game is liquid. It is good to be realistic. Evaluate the programs and how long they can last based on other indicators.

Realistic expectation is that even your best program will totally rob you. If you are not prepared for it, you should not play this affiliate gambling game. It is important to have plan B. To understand that next month your income can be zero.

Do you have savings? Do you have other sources of income? Did you do a research about alternative new affiliate programs in case you want to continue? Can you take care of your employees?

**AnnabelA** · 3 June 2022, 10:34 am

Hi All,

The change was advised via the updated in terms and conditions upon logging into the ComeOn Connect platform as follows towards the end of April 2022;

"9

Affiliate Performance

The lifetime of a Customer is the period during which there is an active, ongoing relationship between the active Affiliate (through the respective active Affiliate account) and COE Services Ltd pursuant to the Affiliate Program.

An “Active” Affiliate account is defined as an Affiliate sending through to ComeOn Connect a minimum of six (6) new active Customer accounts in each and every three (3) month period and maintaining an active website with active banners/promotions promoting the ComeOn Connect Brands.

A new “Active” Customer is defined as a Customer who has cumulatively (i) registered on any Property Sites(ii) made at least one deposit of any value, and (iii) placed at least one (1) wager during the preceding three (3) month period;

ComeOn Connect reserves the right to reduce or change the Affiliate Payment (including but not limited to any commission and/or Reward (as may be applicable) at its sole discretion provided that in the case of a commission, the percentage shall not be lower than 5% net revenue commission as set out in this Agreement):

the Affiliate reduces its efforts to promote ComeOn Connect Brands, except in markets where affiliate activity is restricted; and/or
the existing Affiliate Payment results in a financial loss to Comeon Connect, and/or
the Affiliate does not generate a minimum of six (6) new Active Customers (as defined in these terms and conditions) in a period of three (3) months, except in markets where affiliate activity is restricted; and/or
in the event of any legal and/or regulatory changes in the relevant market."

You can refer to the full T&Cs by clicking here.

We understand that this can come with a shock. However, bear in mind that this is also a two way street, where both parties need to find balance and compromise.

ComeOn Connect strives to deliver quality KPIs at optimal efficiency. This change also serves as an opportunity for both parties to potentially review and reach a suitable agreement where the deal is feasible and profitable for both in the long run as most operators strive for. Unfortunately, the industry has smaller margins with less leeway than before, to both affiliates and operators alike.

While we may understand that certain measures can be considered as inconsiderate on the surface, these decisions come with a high degree of diligence with the affiliates in mind.

We are more than open for conversation with any affiliate that is registered with us, so feel free to contact us on [email protected] or reach out to your account manager to have a chat and discuss further.

Regards,

ComeOn Connect Team

**Sherlock** · 3 June 2022, 8:26 pm

Originally Posted by AnnabelA

However, bear in mind that this is also a two way street, where both parties need to find balance and compromise.

Come On!

I can only tell that trust is a one way street. There is an end for all who do not respect that.

The "compromise" was the original deal, Come On. There is no compromise after the compromise.

Anyways Come On were always thieves, I never saw a penny from them, so there is no change.

**3jokers** · 4 June 2022, 8:27 pm

And now the closed my account because I complained here. So I lost all my players from 2010

**Cash Bonus** · 5 June 2022, 1:20 am

Originally Posted by 3jokers

And now the closed my account because I complained here. So I lost all my players from 2010

Disgraceful. Sent you a PM for help.

**FreeSpins** · 5 June 2022, 2:29 am

Same here.... I have never had 50% RS... but they still have no shame and put me on 10% FLAT....

LOL

COMEON.... = THIEVES!

**affy** · 5 June 2022, 3:20 am

Originally Posted by AnnabelA

... We understand that this can come with a shock. However, bear in mind that this is also a two way street, where both parties need to find balance and compromise.

ComeOn Connect strives to deliver quality KPIs at optimal efficiency. This change also serves as an opportunity for both parties to potentially review and reach a suitable agreement where the deal is feasible and profitable for both in the long run as most operators strive for. Unfortunately, the industry has smaller margins with less leeway than before, to both affiliates and operators alike.

While we may understand that certain measures can be considered as inconsiderate on the surface, these decisions come with a high degree of diligence with the affiliates in mind.

We are more than open for conversation with any affiliate that is registered with us, so feel free to contact us on [email protected] or reach out to your account manager to have a chat and discuss further.

Regards,

ComeOn Connect Team

Hi Annabel Arnaud,

Have translated this for you:

We understand that this can come as a shock. However, we couldn't care less as we don't give a toss about our partners. We need to make money so bugger off.

ComeOn Connect strives to deliver quality KPIs at optimal efficiency for ourselves and our owners. If this requires us to shaft our former partners over we'll do anything to make it as profitable as possible for us. Therefore we might close affiliate accounts, lower revenue percentages and or impose quota to our liking. Furthermore we changes Terms and conditions to our sole liking whenver we want to.

We do understand thas this isn't really fair but so F-ing what?! What you gonna do about it if you don't like it bugger off. We keep your players and a 100% revenue for us. So to be honest we prefer you to take a hike rather sooner than later.

This change serves as a great opportunity for us (and us solely) as is leaves us with the same players but we have to pay less (or, even better, nothing at all any longer). We do admit that on start up we closed life time as we needed you, we needed you badly. Now however, we are established so in the position to say, screw you and f*ck off.

ps.
Fortunately, ourbillion dollar industry is still very profitable but we rather keep it all to ourselves...

**MJM** · 5 June 2022, 11:17 am

Originally Posted by 3jokers

And now the closed my account because I complained here. So I lost all my players from 2010

Can you provide proof they closed your account because of this? If this is proven to be true GPWA needs to consider the ramifications from a sponsored program.

**casinobonusguy** · 5 June 2022, 12:25 pm

Originally Posted by Sherlock

We do not work with ANY programs that have quotas yet FTFY

Nobody sane would start with programs that have quotas or steal. The reality is that those programs almost always start to steal. And they start to steal exactly because you have sent them the thousands of FTDs, so the more they get traffic the more they are incentivised to steal.

There are exceptions like bet365, 22bet/playamo or SIA yet. Nobody can be sure, especially when the crooks like Entain are buying the really honest programs.

And no, even paper will not save anyones ass.

The affiliate game is liquid. It is good to be realistic. Evaluate the programs and how long they can last based on other indicators.

Realistic expectation is that even your best program will totally rob you. If you are not prepared for it, you should not play this affiliate gambling game. It is important to have plan B. To understand that next month your income can be zero.

Do you have savings? Do you have other sources of income? Did you do a research about alternative new affiliate programs in case you want to continue? Can you take care of your employees?

I have been in this game since 2005 and the first time i took a paycheque was 4 years ago as we always reinvested in our business first and had other jobs and income streams .We have significant retained earnings in our business so I already know what my retirement will look like in the worst case.The last program we accepted was in 2018 and these were Legend Affiliates ,Top One Partners ,Royal Planet ,Casino Brango and Casino Extreme. I have been robbed way too many times to count , lost six figure yearly income when Casino Coins shut down , the fortune /Buffalo merge cost us around the same ,we have lost big numbers as programs pull out of regions as they become regulated and we just had to reconfigure things as we went along. I have probably lost more money than half will earn here from such circumstances lol

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