APCW Podcast: Ethics, Integrity, and Lawsuits!

**Anthony** · 13 October 2009, 12:15 pm

In a week with little breaking online gambling news, J Todd and the Rounders Radio crew talk about ethics, responsibility and integrity in our industry... specifically as it related to Microgaming and other software suppliers in light of all the recent casino and poker room closures. What do we do when no one is responsible?

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AK · 28 October 2009, 6:57 pm

I bet we don't see anything on there about Steve Adkins or his past partner Bryan Bailey from the OPA!! Yes its true, Steve got 10 years for stealing from a Ohio Food Bank! But I must say atleast it was a real non-profit watchdog group at that time. You will not find a "watchdog" anymore that's not in it for the money.

I could write a expose all book on people that consider themselves the "Ethic Community"

**Caruso** · 28 October 2009, 7:14 pm

Originally Posted by AK

You will not find a "watchdog" anymore that's not in it for the money.

I hear somebody singing from my hymnsheet.

I could write a expose all book on people that consider themselves the "Ethic Community"

Then do. Or tell me, and I will.

**Integrity** · 28 October 2009, 10:44 pm

Originally Posted by AK

I bet we don't see anything on there about Steve Adkins or his past partner Bryan Bailey from the OPA!!

I remember this "Adkins"story from several years ago, but I do not recall Bryan being involved in any way. Bryan has lived in Europe for many years, and was there when Mr Adkins perpetrated his crime. So please do share with us just how these two were partners, and what Bryan has done to have you call his ethics into question.

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**Webzcas** · 29 October 2009, 12:32 am

Yes please do share what you know. I am very interested also, as I am sure Bryan will be.

**Webzcas** · 29 October 2009, 3:26 am

You know what? I really wish some webmasters get their facts straight before making what could be deemed as libelous comments.

Particulary as the incident you refer to AK is covered in detail:

Here

And Here

Just so I am clear I have alerted Michael to your post in this thread. Dragging the name of someone who is not even a member here, but who also happens to be widely respected in the industry as you full well know, is not cool.

AK · 29 October 2009, 11:25 am

Originally Posted by Integrity

I remember this "Adkins"story from several years ago, but I do not recall Bryan being involved in any way. Bryan has lived in Europe for many years, and was there when Mr Adkins perpetrated his crime. So please do share with us just how these two were partners, and what Bryan has done to have you call his ethics into question.

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I never said Bryan Bailey was involved in stealing from a ohio food bank. Bryan at the time was an original board member at the OPA. Once Steve ran into this trouble Bryan took it over and then sold out to bannerville. At one time before Bryan took it over the OPA was actually a true non profit watchdog site.

I'm not going to write an expose all article, I could however and include the fiasco with "Odds On" and the hush money that was sent to Bryan and another OPA original moderator. Oppppsss, did I say that? I have my sources, don't work me up please

.. I recommend You simply continue to take paparazzi photos with Bryan and continue to be his "friend" and we leave it all at that!!!!

I bet we don't see anything on there about Steve Adkins or his past partner Bryan Bailey from the OPA!! Yes its true, Steve got 10 years for stealing from a Ohio Food Bank! But I must say at least it was a real non-profit watchdog group at that time. You will not find a "watchdog" anymore that's not in it for the money.

I could write a expose all book on people that consider themselves the "Ethic Community"

**Spearmaster** · 29 October 2009, 11:45 am

AK, you seem to know a lot of strange stuff... what kind of hush money and what original OPA moderator do you refer to?

I think it should be patently clear that Bryan does not take hush money from anyone...

**universal4** · 29 October 2009, 11:53 am

To come here and state you know something, but then don't state what you know, or that you can prove something and then do not expose the proof, then why bother posting it?

If it is a theory that is unproven, state that.

If it is speculation state that.

If you feel it is fact, show us the facts.

Otherwise, we are left with speculating on what you have said.

Rick
Universal4

AK · 29 October 2009, 12:01 pm

Hi Rick,

Not worth it, I was not trying to get in a tell all. Thanks for clarifying and I agree my comments should have been left out. Not because its not true as it is but because the puppet master would have his little guys at work and thats starting to show! lol

**Webzcas** · 29 October 2009, 12:09 pm

Nice get out of jail card you played there AK.

Convenient but very telling. Gets you off the hook for making wide of the mark allegations/insinuations? I don't think so.

**Spearmaster** · 29 October 2009, 12:11 pm

I think you owe some people an apology. Your claims are unsubstantiated and libelous, and needless to say, without merit.

AK · 29 October 2009, 1:13 pm

Originally Posted by Spearmaster

I think you owe some people an apology. Your claims are unsubstantiated and libelous, and needless to say, without merit.

Nah, You should go run and play

They were blatantly cheating and Bryan and Yourself were defending them at all costs.

Is is always about the dollar. Always was and always will be. I have been asked to stop posting about the matter and I'm finished with it.
Enough said

**MichaelCorfman** · 29 October 2009, 2:28 pm

Originally Posted by AK

I was not trying to get in a tell all. Thanks for clarifying and I agree my comments should have been left out. Not because its not true as it is but because the puppet master would have his little guys at work and thats starting to show! lol

I think your speculation about "the puppet master would have his little guys at work" is not founded in reality. I contacted you in a pm about this thread because I made a personal decision to let you know that I did not view it was correct to state innuendo without information to support your position. So everyone can see, here is the pm I wrote to you earlier today:

Originally Posted by MichaelCorfman

Hi,

I've received a complaint about your post in the thread: https://www.dietistaktuellt.com/forum/apcw-podc...tml#post565777

If there is a real issue with Bryan I'd like to understand it. If you thought there was an issue, but no longer feel that way based the information in the links added in subsequent posts in the thread, then I think it would be appropriate and would appreciate it if you acknowledged that in the thread.

In the absense of some sort of response from you I will feel it is appropriate for me to post something in the thread because my personal view based on my interactions with Bryan is that his actions are generally above reproach, but I'd rather hear from you in the thread or in response to this pm first.

Thanks,

Michael

My pm to you, and the pm I received pointing out this thread to me, were, in my opinion, not sent because we were puppets doing what the puppet master requested.

The pm I sent you was sent because I don't like to see negative statements made about people I respect without proper substantiation. Actually, I don't like to see unsubstantiated statements made about anyone. And I feel the same motivation applies to the person that sent the pm to me pointing this thread out in the first place.

So, I see no evidence of the "puppet master" doing anything at all.

Michael

**Integrity** · 29 October 2009, 2:48 pm

Originally Posted by AK

Bryan at the time was an original board member at the OPA.

It has been quite a common practice, over the years, for organizations who serve this industry to develop a "Board of Advisors". I was on the "board" of Casino Affiliate Convention with Lou Fabiano back in 2004... go figure.

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Originally Posted by AK

Once Steve ran into this trouble Bryan took it over and then sold out to bannerville.

Ahhhh! Say it isn't so! Sold it to "bannerville" after the founder was sent to prison? Sold it instead of trying to salvage it's tarnished reputation while he was busy running his own site?! The horror! The inhumanity! Oh, say it's not true!

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Originally Posted by AK

...write an expose all article... the fiasco with "Odds On" and the hush money that was sent to Bryan and another OPA original moderator. Oppppsss, did I say that?

WOW! Look at you go! Droppin' innuendo and four year old speculation. Great timing. I'm sure that your deep insight and unwillingness to state any fact whatsoever has impressed even the biggest skeptics here.

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Originally Posted by AK

...don't work me up please

I recommend You simply continue to take paparazzi photos with Bryan and continue to be his "friend" and we leave it all at that!!!!

Oh, please.

On my list of people I would worry about working up I respectfully inform yo that your name doesn't even mae the list. And I will continue to be friends with Bryan because he works in facts, here in the real industry with the rest of us, where he actually makes a difference.

I recommend you take Michaels post as an opportunity to gracefully back out of this thread before you paint yourself into a corner.

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AK · 29 October 2009, 2:58 pm

The reason I'm aware of the facts and situations that went on was because I was hired for protection reasons during that particular period of time. There was confidentiality agreements and death threats involved with this individual and his family for exposing this evil criminal group of individuals. I take this stuff very seriously.

In response with what Mr Corfman has said here is my response in my Private message to him.

Mr Corfman,

I cannot expect everybody to like my comments. If You try to please everybody, by changing your position and your personality, every time you do that You lose a little bit of yourself. It is him indeed that also ruined my chances from getting paid from Mansion. I have a bag of worms on him.. I'm done with it though.

Alan

Have a Good Day

AK

**MichaelCorfman** · 29 October 2009, 3:02 pm

Originally Posted by MichaelCorfman

So, I see no evidence of the "puppet master" doing anything at all.

Woops, I just might have to take that statement back. I see J.Todd is now coming to Bryan's defense too. We all know that J.Todd never does anything except when he is acting as a puppet at the behest of others. My bad.

Michael

**Integrity** · 29 October 2009, 3:11 pm

AK,

I do not care about peoples status or position. No one in this industry is so important that they cannot be held to the same ethical standards as the rest of us. But you have to know that if you come out with bold statements against someone in Bryans position you had best be prepared to go all the way. You had best have your facts in order and be ready to publish them.

This has nothing to do with my personal opinion of you... I don't know you... and I am not calling you a liar, either. How could I question your facts when you haven't presented any? My very first post in this thread requested you reveal your evidence. You opened the door to this topic and invited us in. So you can't be upset with us for taking you up on your invitation.

As I said, I have no issues with you, but surely you can appreciate that no one can simply walk into a forum, throw out accusations, and then be angry when the people want to see the evidence. Not even Michael could get away with that. If you were not prepaired to deliver the evidence, for whatever reasons, then starting the conversation was probably not the best move to make at this time.

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**Caruso** · 29 October 2009, 5:37 pm

Blimey, mention the "B" word and you kids really get your knickers in a twist, eh?

**Integrity** · 29 October 2009, 5:41 pm

Joe Friday: "Just the Facts, Ma'am."

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