Affiliate Programs that do not pay or owe you money

**Mikew** · 7 July 2018, 3:13 am

Hi everyone.

As the Amsterdam Affiliate Conference is right around the corner, I thought it would be the perfect time to list all programs that do not pay or owe you money for months.
Since some of these programs may actually attend the conference, this thread should be a warning for other affiliates to avoid these programs because of their unethical behavior.
Usual suspect.

- Spilleren affiliate: Does not pay
- Mr.bet partners: Does not pay
- Condor affiliates: Owe me since May and seems like they won't pay
- Fantasino affiliates: Owe me since April, and seems like they won't pay
- Cosmos affiliates: Owe me since May
- Spintastic affiliates: Does not pay and never respond to emails

**matthewt** · 7 July 2018, 2:32 pm

I don't have my affiliate program database with me, but I can say that I have more do not pays today, than ever before. I have been a casino affiliate for about 16 years.

I can honestly say that maybe one or two programs did not pay in the first 14 years of being an affiliate. Seems like maybe some programs are not making trustworthy payments a priority. My guess is that the programs that owe money would pay out, if the time and energy were right. Very few aff programs are out to scam affiliates. It is just a business relationship maturity thing. As affs, we just need to be patient and minimize exposure to those programs that owe us.

Just don't be a complainer, 'cause you think it works to motivate programs to pay affs, right?

**FreeSpins** · 7 July 2018, 3:30 pm

Personally, I'm happy to see such listing. We all deserve to know which programmes don't pay or pay late. It's a part of the business, if you don't pay, then you have to be aware of some negative consequences. Try not to pay an installment to bank on time...

**edgarf76** · 7 July 2018, 4:45 pm

Affiliate Edge!

**alexcorsa** · 7 July 2018, 6:29 pm

Currently this is my contribution.

Spilleren affiliate: Does not pay
GoWild affiliate: Does not pay,
AffPlayer affiliate (winner365): Does not pay and never respond to emails

**tal84s** · 8 July 2018, 1:28 am

Hi guys

Oceanbets doesn't pay - stay away from them
Fastbet - Stopped to pay, they still owe me May revenues, this is the last feedback I've heard from them 12 days ago:

Hi,
We’re aiming to settle all outstanding payments within the next 14 days. We apologize for the delay.

**Triple7** · 8 July 2018, 3:05 am

Golden Vegas, more than a year unpaid. Regulated brand, but not paying.

**Mikew** · 8 July 2018, 3:12 am

Originally Posted by matthewt

I don't have my affiliate program database with me, but I can say that I have more do not pays today, than ever before. I have been a casino affiliate for about 16 years.

I can honestly say that maybe one or two programs did not pay in the first 14 years of being an affiliate. Seems like maybe some programs are not making trustworthy payments a priority. My guess is that the programs that owe money would pay out, if the time and energy were right. Very few aff programs are out to scam affiliates. It is just a business relationship maturity thing. As affs, we just need to be patient and minimize exposure to those programs that owe us.

Just don't be a complainer, 'cause you think it works to motivate programs to pay affs, right?

The purpose of this list is definitely not to complaint or motivate programs to pay but its to make sure all other webmasters are aware of the bad programs.
With all your experience in this business, you should know very well that we do not have any institution that protect us and programs can well shave our earning without any consequence to their business.
Paying on time should be a priority.
You may reduce exposure to a program but if he screwed you it will surely do it to another one.
So the aim is, that if everyone share their experience, at least it will help other fellow webmasters to avoid the bad apples of this industry.

**Enzika** · 8 July 2018, 3:15 am

Originally Posted by tal84s

Hi guys

Oceanbets doesn't pay - stay away from them
Fastbet - Stopped to pay, they still owe me May revenues, this is the last feedback I've heard from them 12 days ago:

Hi,
We’re aiming to settle all outstanding payments within the next 14 days. We apologize for the delay.

Oceanbets is same as JoReels, same person behind it.

**Enzika** · 8 July 2018, 3:17 am

We have outstanding payments from,

21Bet
OlyBet

**tal84s** · 8 July 2018, 3:23 am

Yes, Josh Gruber...

So did you have a bad experience with JoReels as well?

**Triple7** · 8 July 2018, 3:34 am

Originally Posted by Enzika

Oceanbets is same as JoReels, same person behind it.

I wouldn't touch any program linked to AffPower/Gametech or what other names they might have. I am always surprised how fast they gain some positions at websites when they opened up some new brand.

**FreeSpins** · 8 July 2018, 4:25 am

Originally Posted by Triple7

I wouldn't touch any program linked to AffPower/Gametech or what other names they might have. I am always surprised how fast they gain some positions at websites when they opened up some new brand.

They lure affiliates with high % like 60%, 50%, 40%, but... never pay. AFFPOWER is done.

**MMM** · 8 July 2018, 8:22 am

Fantasino
Commission365

**FreeSpins** · 8 July 2018, 8:24 am

Just got an email... As if they have read the forum thread LOL

Dear Partner,
as you know Wolf Affiliates was a Marketing Agency of Oceanbets Casino.
We continue with our adventure without Oceanebts and appreciate the great time we had with you in doing business together.
We will keep you posted with our future plans.
Feel free to touch base with us, if you have any questions.
Best regards,
Wolf Affiliates
[email protected]
[email protected]

Originally Posted by tal84s

Hi guys

Oceanbets doesn't pay - stay away from them
Fastbet - Stopped to pay, they still owe me May revenues, this is the last feedback I've heard from them 12 days ago:

Hi,
We’re aiming to settle all outstanding payments within the next 14 days. We apologize for the delay.

**Enzika** · 8 July 2018, 8:37 am

Originally Posted by tal84s

Yes, Josh Gruber...

So did you have a bad experience with JoReels as well?

No. I would never touch to JoReels or OceanBets. Even if they would be the only casinos.

I think all affiliates should think about how they do business and to which operators they send traffic to. I feel once we send player to casino, we are responsible that the casino is legit.

I have stopped working long time ago with all casinos from Game Scale / AffPower / Or people close to them.

**Mikew** · 11 July 2018, 12:26 pm

- Cosmos affiliates: They reached out, explained the reason of the delay and confirmed everything should be sorted on the next paying roll this month.

- Condor affiliates: Payment received today.

**tal84s** · 25 July 2018, 6:47 am

An update - Fastbet still didn't pay. I have tried to involve Bethard Group on this because Fastbet is their white label brand.

Panu, the co-founder wrote me the following email after ignornig my messages for almost a month:

I've resigned from my position at Fastbet after severe disagreements with the owners and our contract has been cancelled with our service provider who will now take over the operations and inform affiliates about the changes.
For future communications please contact ftdmediaou at gmail com
I'm quite pissed at the moment myself as I have tens of thousands worth of unpaid salaries and personal loans to the company so I know the situation is very inconvenient.

**marvel** · 22 August 2018, 4:11 am

Spintastic Affiliates - since they left the german market
EuroVegas Partners - Look like no one working more for this program, don´t pay since more then half a year

**Mikew** · 22 August 2018, 6:41 am

From my own experience, new white labels casinos powered by Everymatrix should be avoided or at least be very cautions where working with.
They mostly don't pay or go bankrupt shortly after they launched.
To name a few, there is Spintastic, Fantasino, Spilleren & Vikingheim, doublestar casino...
And everymatrix does absolutely nothing when contacted about the issues with the casinos they work with.

Regarding EuroVegas Partners, I know they are powered by skillonnet software. You may try to contact skillonnet with your issue

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